four drunk guys

“I guess it is the same as the bible since it was written before any of us where alive. Who should believe that. For all we know 4 guys that where drunk could of written that.”

Four guys who were drunk could NOT have written the Bible.
Whether it is true or not true.
I dare you to make a comment like that regarding the Koran.

We know that we can not just accept the word of any one and every one who says this or that. They might have been drunk or deceived or seen an illusion or a hallucination or they might be lying on purpose. We Know that. Explorers spent years looking for the giants on the east coast of South America because the first guy there said that he saw some. On the other hand sailors have been telling us for years that there are at times waves on the ocean that are fifty, sixty and more feet high. Science said ‘impossible’ – till recently. Science is Definitely NOT infallible – you may laugh at the Pope declaring infallible Ex Cathedra statements but what are you all doing with scientists ? (“When a Pope speaks from the chair (cathedra) of authority as the visible head of all Christians, his teaching is infallibly Christ’s true teaching.”) (Catholic I am not)

Back to the Bible. The Koran was Not written by some one who was drunk. Charlie D was Not drunk when he wrote Mine Kamph - no, Voyage of the Beagle, what ever else he was. No one accuses Marx or Hitler of being drunk. Mother T? No. The whole business of finding the truth IS complex, no doubt about it. Knowledge is increasing exponentially but the more we know the more we realize that there is more that we still do not know than what we have figured out so far, more by far. How people’s heads work is still beyond us. How do these people do compound complex math so fast? How did Edison think up all that stuff? Where did Einstein come up with all that he did? People are capable of some realllllly great stuff. And some reallllllly horrific stuff.

Still, Yes. It is like the Bible in that the people who said they saw mastodons were a couple of generations ago and the people who wrote the Bible lived even further back. BUT IF it is true that Jesus did rise from the dead, as the Bible says He did, then He should still be around. Somewhere. Can He vouch for the Bible?

wild speculation

"Creationism and intelligent design are not scientific theories nor testable as scientific fact - and have no place in the science curriculum. "But we advise science teachers that when questions about creationism come up in lessons, it provides an opportunity to explain or explore what makes a scientific theory."

Guess what ! Evolution is NOT a testable theory ! Too bad when they “explain” a scientific theory to the kids they couldn’t be honest and tell them, the Emphasis is on the TESTABLE part - and Evolution is NOT testable ! ! No matter how you cut it.

BEFORE you start in telling me how stupid I am and how I do not understand anything check out your own “facts”. You say science proves that for example a fossil is one million years old. How did they PROVE it ? Well, it is a scientific theory you say. OK, look at the evidence that makes you believe that it is one million years old. Now tell me that when in your most lucid moments and those with the highest honesty factor you do not have to say that evidence is at best wild speculation.

DNA

The traditional route to DNA in ancient samples is through bones and preserved muscle, but any genetic material usually falls apart very soon after death and is prone to contamination from bacteria.
"There are also a lot of old bison and horse mummies turning up in the permafrost. It's not just animals, there are humans [too]; there are a lot of mummies around the world with hair, ranging from Egypt, South America to the more cold, better-preserved ones in Greenland."

Asked the classic question about whether it would be possible to clone any extinct creatures back into existence, Dr Gilbert said that even if the full genetic sequence of a mammoth could be retrieved, the technology did not currently exist to turn that biochemical information into a live animal.

The six-month-old female mammoth calf was discovered on the Yamal peninsula of Russia and is thought to have died 10,000 years ago.
The animal's trunk and eyes are still intact and some of its fur remains on the body. "The mammoth has no defects except that its tail was bit off," "In terms of its state of preservation, this is the world's most valuable discovery," That specimen failed to yield DNA of sufficient quality,
One population of mammoths lived on in isolation on Russia's remote Wrangel Island until about 5,000 years ago – may be 4000 years ago. …radiocarbon dated to be no more than 3,700-7,000 years old.
Several full-body mammoths have been found in the past, "But none of them has been excavated and preserved in a perfect condition... as frozen bodies start to rot the moment they come out of ice,"
DNA, a notoriously unstable molecule …

So who DO we believe ? The Scientist who was not alive more than 100 years ago or the man, people, who said he, they, saw mammoth a hundred years ago ??
I remember something like this once before. When they were working for King James the Bible translators opted to go with the scientists, rocks do not fall out of the sky ! Every thing that falls out of the sky in the KJV Bible is hail.